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Guiding Gamespy Through Lothlórien

Tony posted this on March 5th, 2009. It has 1 Comment »
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Allen Rausch at Game­spy had a chance to take a tour of Book 7, guided by Jef­frey Steefel and Aaron Camp­bell. There’s a lot of inter­est­ing insights in their com­ments on the area’s design and their thoughts for the future.

One thing caught my atten­tion as I hadn’t heard of it before. We knew that the elves of Loth­lórien weren’t exactly trust­ing of strangers. Appar­ently there are oppor­tu­ni­ties to actu­ally lose rep­u­ta­tion with them as well. What path you choose changes a cer­tain quest chain and gains you one of two titles. You can’t have both. I though this con­cept was pretty cool:

Never ones to let an oppor­tu­nity go to waste, Lothlorien’s rep­u­ta­tion bar­rier will also house an even smaller exper­i­ment, that may have some big­ger reper­cus­sions. My guide brings me back out­side Lorien to the camp of Dwarves and humans where I’m directed to take a quest from a dwarf stand­ing next to a camp­fire. The name of the quest is “Poach­ing,” and it directs me to kill eight deer inside Lorien and bring him their meat. Not much dif­fer­ent from any fetch and gather quest save for the reward… a few nice rings and the loss of 700 “Elves of Lorien” rep­u­ta­tion points. Within Lothlo­rien, play­ers will see ani­mals that have “pro­tected” under their names. That means that killing them will also result in a small but notice­able reduc­tion in rep points. This is the first time in the game that a player will be able to lose reputation.

“We’re look­ing into pro­vid­ing… at least in a small way… some ele­ment of moral choice in our quests.” In this case, the player merely has to either ful­fill the dwarf’s request or accept a quest from a nearby elf turn­ing in the dwarf poacher for a big rep increase. Either choice offers the pos­si­bil­ity of loot and a quest chain that cul­mi­nates in a title for the player. Given that the two chains are in oppo­si­tion to each other, though, it means that either one or the other title will be for­ever denied to that char­ac­ter. It’ll also be a chal­lenge for play­ers who never read quest text.

“It’s impor­tant to real­ize that whichever way the player chooses, they’ll still be able to get into Lorien and access all the con­tent,” Steefel says. Appar­ently play­ers will never be able to drive down their rep to the point where they become shoot-on-sight, but nei­ther man would rule out the pos­si­bil­ity of doing more with this in the future… pos­si­bly hav­ing play­ers make irrev­o­ca­ble choices. For myself, I imme­di­ately thought of Rohan under Worm­tongue and the dan­ger of the coun­try falling into civil war as dif­fer­ent fac­tions of Rohirrim might back King Theo­den or the exiled Eomer. Once again both Steefel and Camp­bell grunted non­com­mit­tally as I men­tioned this. “We’re always exper­i­ment­ing with new ideas. Ses­sion play started out small and got big­ger. We’ll have to see where this goes and what the player reac­tion to it is.”

I per­son­ally think this is a really cool idea. It doesn’t block any Loth­lórien con­tent, but it gives play­ers a sim­ple moral choice with some level of con­se­quence. Even if that’s just a title and some rep­u­ta­tion points, it’s bet­ter than sim­ply ignor­ing the effects of your choices like MMORPG’s gen­er­ally do.

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Official Screens of Lothlórien

Tony posted this on March 4th, 2009. It has 2 Comments »
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Some press shots for Loth­lórien were sent my way today. In addi­tion to the small gallery below, they’ll be housed on the main Gallery page for posterity.

I’m unable to play on Bull­roarer and I’ve yet to make it into Loth­lórien as it is now. It was cool see­ing some nice clear shots of the area, they’ve def­i­nitely done a nice job with it.


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Developer Diary on Lothlórien

Tony posted this on March 3rd, 2009. It has 2 Comments »
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A new devel­oper diary about Loth­lórien Quests has been posted today. It con­tains infor­ma­tion on access­ing the area, spe­cial places of note and basic infor­ma­tion on quests and quest hubs. It’s def­i­nitely worth read­ing, but I pulled two things from it that I thought deserved spe­cial note:

1.) Book  7 is a new “on ramp”, as has been stated pre­vi­ously in the forums. This means it doesn’t require you to have fin­ished the pre­vi­ous Vol­ume II books to start it. It’s still heav­ily rec­om­mended that you fin­ish Books 1 through 6, how­ever, so you’ll get the full effect of the storyline.

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Thoughts on Book 7 Patch Notes

Tony posted this on February 27th, 2009. It has No Comments »
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So I have to say that Book 7 has brought a hell of a lot more than I antic­i­pated. While I’m sure every­one will argue over alter­ations to their indi­vid­ual classes, I def­i­nitely can’t bring myself to say that Tur­bine has skimped here. They’re con­tin­u­ing to set the stan­dard for con­tent updates as far as I’m con­cerned, even if some­one will always unfor­tu­nately remain disappointed.

I fig­ured I’d talk a bit about things that caught my eye. You can also read the full notes to see how your class is affected (I’ve largely ignored that here as I’ve not played them all and don’t nec­es­sar­ily know what’s impor­tant) and what else might be hap­pen­ing in Mid­dle Earth. It’s long, so get some­thing to drink! A lot of what I note is from their high­lights, which per­son­ally I was most inter­ested in as a more “casual” player.

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Dev Chat Thoughts

Tony posted this on February 4th, 2009. It has No Comments »
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I’m sure many peo­ple out there have read through the dev chat by now and have made up your own minds about it. I noticed on the forums that there was a good split between those happy with the chat and those who weren’t. I don’t usu­ally expect too much from these things for var­i­ous rea­sons .… Largely because they’re short, unstruc­tured, rapid paced and just ill-suited to thor­ough explanations.

As always, these are a nice pref­ace to upcom­ing Book patches and I have to say my inter­est in see­ing what will be in the next update has gone up. It’s always worth remem­ber­ing that there’s far more going on than what these chats detail … the Rune-keeper class comes to mind. The chat didn’t have much infor­ma­tion on the class (aside from them get­ting “buffs”), but there’s been a good amount of dis­cus­sion on Book 7 changes on the forums from the devs so far.

So we’ll see what hap­pens in the end. I’m not one to com­plain until I know what I’m actu­ally get­ting or not get­ting, par­tic­u­larly when I know that not every mem­ber of the devel­op­ment team shows up for these things. If the craft­ing lead isn’t there then we prob­a­bly won’t hear much about craft­ing changes, for example.

That said, there was some good infor­ma­tion in the chat and I got the impres­sion that most peo­ple involved had a good time. Some things that caught my attention:

  • Min­s­tels are finally get­ting Tier 6 instruments.
  • Pathing improve­ments for Lore–mas­ter pets. I never got very far with my Lore–mas­ter, but even early on this can be annoy­ing. Any fixes are good!
  • As has been dis­cussed before, Lothlo­rien will be filled out in Book 7. I’m really inter­ested in see­ing this area as Tur­bine seems par­tic­u­larly happy with how it turned out. I’m also inter­ested in see­ing how they’ve man­aged the rep­u­ta­tion sys­tem, as it sounds like it might be a change of pace from the oth­ers in the game. There will be a devel­oper diary on the area soon.
  • More three man instances are com­ing. This was one of the cooler fea­tures of the last update, I felt.
  • Yet another con­fir­ma­tion of a 12-person raid in Book 7. This should make peo­ple happy, although I’ve yet to com­plete a major raid in the game. Oops.
  • garian07 specif­i­cally asks about Kin­ship cloaks. I’m won­der­ing if this ques­tion was mis­un­der­stood, as it sounds like Floon was refer­ring to a sys­tem to upload pic­tures and turn them into cloak tex­tures. I assumed that the ques­tion was refer­ring more to a sys­tem where we could choose between cloak styles, col­ors and emblems to make a Kinship-unique cloak. I believe World of War­craft and Warham­mer Online both have this option and it seems like it’d be sig­nif­i­cantly eas­ier. Of course, I imag­ine bal­anc­ing this so that other cloak designs in the game aren’t ignored entirely is difficult.
  • I think many peo­ple out there are dis­ap­pointed with the hook sys­tem used for hous­ing and I was glad to see it brought up here. I know it’s low on the totem pole and I cer­tainly appre­ci­ate that hous­ing was added as an update in the first place, but I do hope they adjust this some­what soon. I’d really love for my house to be more of a focus for my char­ac­ter. I’d also really love if there was some sim­ple way to invite peo­ple over.

The chat didn’t really get into craft­ing or leg­endary item con­cerns, two things which are com­monly lamented on the forums as of late. I sup­pose we’ll see soon enough if either of these are adjusted in Book 7, but it sounds like mak­ing sign­f­i­cant changes to either (par­tic­u­larly the lat­ter) would be quite difficult.

In any event, I’m look­ing for­ward to hear­ing more about the next update. Now that the chat is over, I imag­ine they’ll be ramp­ing up the con­tent for its release soon.